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07:39 AM EST, Tuesday Sep 22, 2009
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Anonymous... Is it possible? |
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I want to be as best I possibly can, be completely anonymous in the business professionally and legally. From everyone. As a director/producer/owner/founder/ceo could I be anonymous?
I know performers can... they got stage names... But can I have my own stage name as a non-performer?
If so, how?
Also keeping my locations of my company property completely Anonymous and private, at least from the public eyes. I am a very, very safe (paranoid kinda) person. I want to take every precaution as I possibly can. Such as protecting all my performers/employees and especially myself... What tips would you guys suggest?
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07:52 AM EST, Tuesday Sep 22, 2009
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Incorporate.
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Johnny Jones has ordered that all people who don't meet his personal standards of having a right to speak on YNOT be silent.
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09:55 AM EST, Tuesday Sep 22, 2009
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First because it HAS to be said... the safest way you can keep from being identified as associating with adult is to not engage in this industry.
I say that because working in adult will bring some level of risk of exposure.
As for names... you ARE using a handle right now, aren't you? So that's a start.
But the more "anonymous" you want to remain, the more other people will start to wonder if you're legitimate. Many models will have red flags raised if you're unwilling to say very much about yourself or your company.
Soooo.... you're going to have to take all these things into consideration when you decide how anonymous you want to remain.
There's nothing stopping you from getting a mailbox service, a Skype phone number, and using a fictitious business name in your public dealings. But if you do business face-to-face and you always want to meet people in some dark alleyway... well, don't be surprised if they pass on doing business with you.
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If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you; that is the principal difference between a dog and a man. -Mark Twain
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11:27 AM EST, Tuesday Sep 22, 2009
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I dont care what you do, you will be found.
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12:08 PM EST, Tuesday Sep 22, 2009
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Only people practicing bad business or illegal business need that kind of secrecy. This is a legit business.
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10:36 PM EST, Tuesday Sep 22, 2009
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"The only way to keep is secret is to make sure it is known by only three people. And even then, it only works if two of the three are dead."
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03:55 AM EST, Wednesday Sep 23, 2009
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Anonymous to whom?
To an uninformed public there are ways to obscure your identity.
However, in the business world no one is really anonymous.
All corporations require filings of the names and addresses of corporate officers and a real person at the resident agent.
In most of the world, the annual reports naming the persons that are officers of the corporation and it's resident agent for legal service are public records.
The exception being certain countries known for ''off shore incorporation,'' who restrict access to the corporate records to their government, it's courts and under certain circumstances -- to foreign government's investigatory authorities.
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01:10 PM EST, Wednesday Sep 23, 2009
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The reason why I want to be anonymous is I dont want to have so many stalkers trying to attack my performers/employees/myself, or make it super easy for other people who hate porn (extremists = super religious), performers friends, boyfriends/ex-boyfriends, girlfriends/ex-girlfriends, family members.. I dont want to make it easy for them to come by my business to start drama or something dangerous.
Should I just hire the biggest security firm to protect my business, my performers and myself?
How do people in the business today deal with those dangers?
| Boogie wrote: | | Only people practicing bad business or illegal business need that kind of secrecy. This is a legit business. |
well religious extremists think its bad practice of business, and illegal...
I just want to have a safe working environment.
Like for example, I get a new girl to perform, her boyfriend finds out, he then finds my personal address, and my business address. ect... I'm in trouble.....
Many performers have their checks with their stage name, no real names. Can I get a stage name paid to my check, as a non-performer?
I've heard the performers just open a corporation with their name as the company name... This true?
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01:35 PM EST, Wednesday Sep 23, 2009
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The biggest way to remain anonymous is to use a third party record keeper like [plug] www.2257Safe.com [/plug] to hold your records.
That is the first part. But that just keeps your name of the DVD covers and website.
Being anonymous by incorporating only works if the company is in someone else's name.
Overall, there is no way to be completely anonymous. We have served people overseas. With enough work people can find you. Even by posting on this board you can be found. You need to remain so far under the radar no one even thinks you are involved in the business. And still that may not work.
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www.AdultBizLaw.com
www.2257Safe.com
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02:25 PM EST, Wednesday Sep 23, 2009
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| pornlaw wrote: | The biggest way to remain anonymous is to use a third party record keeper like [plug] www.2257Safe.com [/plug] to hold your records.
That is the first part. But that just keeps your name of the DVD covers and website.
Being anonymous by incorporating only works if the company is in someone else's name.
Overall, there is no way to be completely anonymous. We have served people overseas. With enough work people can find you. Even by posting on this board you can be found. You need to remain so far under the radar no one even thinks you are involved in the business. And still that may not work. |
If I'm working for a company, can I as an employee, (any position) can get a check for a stage name? (like performers do)
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02:35 PM EST, Wednesday Sep 23, 2009
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Ok, I can't help it but I really am loling at this one. As long as I have been in this industry AS A PERFORMER, I guess I have been lucky in that I have never once had an issue like this. But, c'mmon...a little common sense is required if you plan to run an adult business.
I've NEVER received a legitimate paycheck under my performer name, only my real name. Is that even legal?
Performers have to give out their identification for model releases and verification of age, ya think that's their "Performer name" on their driver's license? On their passport? Nuh-uh!
You don't want people to know where your biz is, physically? Then don't TELL people! Geeze! Our studio may or may not be located in Toronto, but as far as all of our customers are concerned, it is.
We don't allow friends, boyfriends, husbands, kids etc. in the bldg. UNLESS they are also performers. That's just sensible practice.
We have a coded door to our office bldg. so that no-one can't just walk in without us Letting them in.
The only people who "need" to know your "real" name are those you are signing contracts and/or giving/receiving money from.
Are those records available? As RS already posted, of course they are. You're starting a business. But...if all of your employees refer to you as Snakezilla (for example) all the time, how exactly is the ex-boyfriend or zealot going to come looking for you? Doubt that name is going to be listed in the phone book, right?
You have to be smart and hire smart people if you plan to be successful in ANY business. Adult is no different.
Hope this helps. Feel free to ask questions.
Kedra
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12:13 AM EST, Thursday Sep 24, 2009
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| Snakekilla wrote: | | If I'm working for a company, can I as an employee, (any position) can get a check for a stage name? (like performers do) |
Yes, but not as an EE you would have to be an IC. Then they pay your LLC or Inc that is named Snakekilla LLC/Inc.
But they probably wont unless you are in a position that an IC would fill ie., cameraman, director, editor, performer ect.
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www.AdultBizLaw.com
www.2257Safe.com
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07:34 AM EST, Friday Sep 25, 2009
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| 2MuchKedra wrote: |
We don't allow friends, boyfriends, husbands, kids etc. in the bldg. UNLESS they are also performers. That's just sensible practice.
We have a coded door to our office bldg. so that no-one can't just walk in without us Letting them in. |
so have a good security system in place?
| 2MuchKedra wrote: |
The only people who "need" to know your "real" name are those you are signing contracts and/or giving/receiving money from. |
So I can credit myself as a Director under any stage name? ether working for a company or working for my own company.
| 2MuchKedra wrote: |
You have to be smart and hire smart people if you plan to be successful in ANY business. Adult is no different. |
I dont think being smart is required for performers really I think when I choose a performer they must have the talent that I need for whatever shoot I'm doing at that time, right?
Other than that, yea smart is a must..
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10:02 PM EST, Friday Sep 25, 2009
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12:33 PM EST, Saturday Sep 26, 2009
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| Snakekilla wrote: |
so have a good security system in place? |
I don't think that you don't need Fort Knox. You just need to be sensible. Geeze!
| Snakekilla wrote: |
So I can credit myself as a Director under any stage name? ether working for a company or working for my own company. |
You can credit yourself in a title as anything you want, I believe. What goes out to the consumer has nothing to do with how you are paid.
| Snakekilla wrote: |
I dont think being smart is required for performers really I think when I choose a performer they must have the talent that I need for whatever shoot I'm doing at that time, right?
Other than that, yea smart is a must.. |
I'm going to dismiss the rude nature of this comment as inexperience and youth.
I'd like to express to you one simple fact that you may have overlooked. Your performers are the only way you make anything. Without performers, you're just an idiot standing around with a camera. Don't assume they don't have any brains because they are performers.
You really need to grow up, Son. If you spoke to me as a Director, with that mentality, I would tell you to go screw yourself. Not that nicely, but I'll respect Jay and Connor and not express myself fully.
Cheers,
Kedra
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kedra@2much.net
http://www.2much.net
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